Comments on: Beyond the course http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574 Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Rochelle Troyano http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71753 Rochelle Troyano Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:37:59 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71753 Yes, thanks Clark, for the book suggestion. I just ordered it! My daughter manages a homeless shelter so she should find the book helpful! Yes, thanks Clark, for the book suggestion. I just ordered it! My daughter manages a homeless shelter so she should find the book helpful!

]]> By: Clark http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71751 Clark Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:27:51 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71751 Stacy, yes, it's free to use with attribution, (see the Creative commons spec in the sidebar). Re: reflection, I do mean capturing when you have actively had to solve a problem, but yes, if you did have insights when just finding the answer, capturing that would be welcome (though perhaps you're at least implicitly going through problem-solving?). Not quite sure what you mean about information that's not needed to resolve a breakdown. Info overload? Of course, you may have some breakdowns that have been hanging around unsolved, and then you serendipitously find the answer. Storing for unanticipated problems is interesting, but not sure it falls from *this* diagram, which is about when you *do* have breakdowns. Maybe time for another diagram/model? (Tho' really just flows into our basic memory stuff, ala <a href="http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=540" rel="nofollow">Medina</a>, no?) Stacy, yes, it’s free to use with attribution, (see the Creative commons spec in the sidebar).

Re: reflection, I do mean capturing when you have actively had to solve a problem, but yes, if you did have insights when just finding the answer, capturing that would be welcome (though perhaps you’re at least implicitly going through problem-solving?).

Not quite sure what you mean about information that’s not needed to resolve a breakdown. Info overload? Of course, you may have some breakdowns that have been hanging around unsolved, and then you serendipitously find the answer. Storing for unanticipated problems is interesting, but not sure it falls from *this* diagram, which is about when you *do* have breakdowns. Maybe time for another diagram/model? (Tho’ really just flows into our basic memory stuff, ala Medina, no?)

]]> By: Clark http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71750 Clark Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:53:02 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71750 Rochelle, thrilled if it provides a useful framework! I love models; I think they're the key to more successful problem-solving (including relatonships :). BTW, I like the book "Crucial Conversations" on that topic, though it's still more of a case of 'do as I say', sadly. Rochelle, thrilled if it provides a useful framework! I love models; I think they’re the key to more successful problem-solving (including relatonships :). BTW, I like the book “Crucial Conversations” on that topic, though it’s still more of a case of ‘do as I say’, sadly.

]]> By: Stacy Doolittle http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71748 Stacy Doolittle Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:15:19 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71748 I like the diagram (is it free to use with attribution?). I particularly like the distinction about people between first and middle level. I do have a question regarding "Reflection." Could it also be at the top of the diagram as well? And, linked to Yes for when the info is partially found (problem solved) and modified? Regarding the top, what about the information one receives which isn't needed to resolve a breakdown? This happens to me all of the time. I'm stuck on how to organize this information or capture it for that unknown future breakdown... Thanks for sharing your brilliance! I like the diagram (is it free to use with attribution?). I particularly like the distinction about people between first and middle level. I do have a question regarding “Reflection.” Could it also be at the top of the diagram as well? And, linked to Yes for when the info is partially found (problem solved) and modified?

Regarding the top, what about the information one receives which isn’t needed to resolve a breakdown? This happens to me all of the time. I’m stuck on how to organize this information or capture it for that unknown future breakdown…

Thanks for sharing your brilliance!

]]> By: Rochelle Troyano http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71746 Rochelle Troyano Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:32:38 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71746 This model goes WAY beyond education! My grown daughters sometimes get annoyed with me when I present modeled ways of solving problems similar to yours! This model can be used to solve any issue, including the ubiquitous relationship problem! Thanks for a great approach and one that I can throw at my daughters the next time they have any problems! This model goes WAY beyond education! My grown daughters sometimes get annoyed with me when I present modeled ways of solving problems similar to yours! This model can be used to solve any issue, including the ubiquitous relationship problem!
Thanks for a great approach and one that I can throw at my daughters the next time they have any problems!

]]> By: Clark http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71745 Clark Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:23:20 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71745 Thanks! Rudy, yes, that's the way I try to think about it, learning role first, tool second. And, yes, Lydia, that's one of the implications I like to highlight. Thanks! Rudy, yes, that’s the way I try to think about it, learning role first, tool second. And, yes, Lydia, that’s one of the implications I like to highlight.

]]> By: Lydia Zhang http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71740 Lydia Zhang Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:58:26 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71740 Love the diagram, which helped me explain more clearly why we need things other than courses. Love the diagram, which helped me explain more clearly why we need things other than courses.

]]> By: XicanoWan http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574&cpage=1#comment-71735 XicanoWan Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:54:49 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=574#comment-71735 Quick and to the point, Clark. I especially appreciated the breakdown of tools, and the roles by which they support learning. Rudy Quick and to the point, Clark. I especially appreciated the breakdown of tools, and the roles by which they support learning.

Rudy

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