Comments on: Meeting unreasonable needs http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861 Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Training others on things you know next to nothing about…by not ‘training’ | Workplace Learning Today http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-74127 Training others on things you know next to nothing about…by not ‘training’ | Workplace Learning Today Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:02:51 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861#comment-74127 [...] Wickham gives a great example of ‘the model’ approach Clark Quinn recently wrote about. The idea is to think less about ‘training’ and think more about job aids. [...] [...] Wickham gives a great example of ‘the model’ approach Clark Quinn recently wrote about. The idea is to think less about ‘training’ and think more about job aids. [...]

]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-74119 Dave Ferguson Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:47:54 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861#comment-74119 That last sentence reminded me of Roger Schank's comment: it took the training profession 30 years to get the overhead projector out of the bowling alley. That last sentence reminded me of Roger Schank’s comment: it took the training profession 30 years to get the overhead projector out of the bowling alley.

]]> By: Clark http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-73891 Clark Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:23:18 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=861#comment-73891 The person who sent this responded with a subsequent note, which would be funny if it wasn't so tragic: <i>Just thought you might be interested... I attended a conference on my software this past weekend, and I signed up for the train the trainer track. Everyone was promoting tool-based instruction (click here, press this button, etc). It was kind of depressing. None of the 'train the trainers' mentioned anything about job aids, collaborative learning, etc. Basically anything that you and other prominent bloggers talk about in your blogs or anything that I learn in grad school wasn't even mentioned. ADDIE, however, was mentioned plenty of times,which was really comical because I was reading your recent post about ADDIE on my iPhone during one of the sessions. I was even given a Jeopardy PowerPoint filled with questions about buttons and their functions so learners could "memorize" these. Again, it's tough for young IDs who are trying to do things based on recent research, emerging practices, and new ideas from prominent ID bloggers when you have folks who haven't learned anything about the field for 30 years 'training the trainer''. Anyway, all in all, It was very disappointing.</i> No doubt. Sigh. The person who sent this responded with a subsequent note, which would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic:

Just thought you might be interested…

I attended a conference on my software this past weekend, and I signed up for the train the trainer track.

Everyone was promoting tool-based instruction (click here, press this button, etc). It was kind of depressing.

None of the ‘train the trainers’ mentioned anything about job aids, collaborative learning, etc. Basically anything that you and other prominent bloggers talk about in your blogs or anything that I learn in grad school wasn’t even mentioned.

ADDIE, however, was mentioned plenty of times,which was really comical because I was reading your recent post about ADDIE on my iPhone during one of the sessions. I was even given a Jeopardy PowerPoint filled with questions about buttons and their functions so learners could “memorize” these.

Again, it’s tough for young IDs who are trying to do things based on recent research, emerging practices, and new ideas from prominent ID bloggers when you have folks who haven’t learned anything about the field for 30 years ‘training the trainer”.

Anyway, all in all, It was very disappointing.

No doubt. Sigh.

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