You can tell it’s back-to-school time as there’s more quality posts in the edublogosphere than you can shake a board rubber at! In fact, in a bit of a break with tradition – but as needs must – I’m going to have to do two roundups thi…

You don’t have the benefit of the full presentation (there’s a PDF of the slides here, just scroll down to my name; they sadly haven’t put up a video of the presentation), but I was trying to similarly map out a curriculum from some others and my own baggage.

On Ethics, by the way, I’m with you that you shouldn’t push a particular suite; I believe there are certain core values that societies need to share to get along, though different societies can have different sets, but I want explicit exploration, not indoctrination. So I’m in agreement that I want them developed from within, but part of my approach to the wisdom theme I was pushing comes from several areas that say wise decisions are both short term and long term, including all affected stakeholders (part of the stewardship) and informed by values.

Sometime it’d be great to talk about this over a beer or two, and I think we would indeed find agreement to a fairly deep level.

There’s a lot of similarity between your list and mine, and I suspect if we rooted around underneath the titles we would have very similar lists. That said…

– problem-solving including research and design

I have much less emphasis on ‘problems’ per se, perhaps being less influenced by Jonassen. For me, a lot of research and design overlaps well beyond the domain of problem solving, and therefore, so does a lot of learning. A lot of my own work in both areas is based on ‘I wonder what x would look like…’ or ‘I wonder what happens if…’ types of motivations, and are not addressed to any specific problem. Other of my work is just pure description, maybe cast into a framework or metaphor, but in either case, intended to pass along some experience.

Generally I class problem solving under the head of ‘creativity’ and I guess what I say under creativity would be, in very short form, my approach to problem solving. But problem solving also involves critical thinking, reading and understanding consequences.

– systems-thinking with model-based reasoning and modeling

This all falls under pattern-recognition for me, for the important reason that all systems are patterns, but not all patterns are (interpreted as) systems. Hence, again, under creativity.

I think if we examined it our approaches to science and discovery have a lot of overlap, but there are nuances that cause a shift in emphasis. For me, to separate out something like ‘systems thinking’ is almost analagous to separating out ‘induction’ and ‘deduction’. But these cut across classifications, and are more specific types of *content* rather than the more process or function oriented approach I wanted to take.

– working with others covering leadership as well as communication

On communication we both agree and I suspect we would find strong elements of agreement to a fairly deep level, if your writing style is any indication of your thoughts on this topic, which I believe it is.

The rest of it I would separate out and cover under empathy, valuing oneself, and living meaningfully. And I would value ‘leadership’ per se as a skill). I don’t believe in ‘leading’. I believe in empowering. And empowering, from my perspective, comes from a strength of self and purpose.

– values covering both ethics and stewardship

I would need to know more about what you mean by stewardship in order to comment.

With regard to ethics, I am concerned the the proposal implies that there is some body of ethics already known that could, and should, be learned by a student. Sadly, this is not the case. Even with some pretty basic precepts – such as murder and cannibalism – we find that there is significant disagreement within and among societies.

Ethics, therefore, is something that is either imposed from without, as a form of memorization and indoctrination, or is developed from within, as a process of reason, emotion and knowledge. For various good reasons, I reject the former. Hence, I accept the latter, and have, instead of trying to look at ethiocs specifically, thought of the tools that would be needed for a person to define and live according to their own ethics.