Comments on: Cyberlearning (ahem) https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/10/cyberlearning-ahem/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:50:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: Russ Bradford https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/10/cyberlearning-ahem/#comment-73074 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:50:17 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=448#comment-73074 I have been pushing for a centralized repository of truly well thought out and intelligently designed courses covering every aspect of high school and many aspects of college learning. Algebra is Algebra, Chemistry is Chemistry, and History is basically the same everywhere it is taught, yet every teacher needs to create their own syllabus, design their own tests, and basically reinvent the wheel. Yes, I know publishers create text books and provide tests and teacher guides, but consider if the country hired the likes of Ken Burns to create a US History course with video clips more appropriate to the classroom than the wonderful but lengthy 15 hour video series; what might he create? We might rearrange how we structured our classrooms and our class schedules to provide longer periods so such content can make sense. Chopping the day up into 45 minute segments with 30% of that time wasted on non-subject issues leaves little time for a more creative approach. If we tasked filmmakers and educators and computer scientists to collaboration creating truly innovative course content there is no doubt that the likes of George Lucas and our best educators and most innovative software talent could create content that would hold students riveted.

The NSF initiative is a good start but since it is government and it is subject to political influences and of course the inevitable delays, it could very well be another decade before we start to see truly compelling content for the LMS and other systems the NSF is seeking. I’m less interested in “cyberlearning” than in just plain old learning. The country has spent billions on wiring classrooms and providing laptops and broadband service, yet our educational system is still broken and we still only graduate 70% of high school students and of those that do graduate, the majority are not prepared for college or the workforce. I am all for cyberlearning if it will help in plain old learning, but so far, there is little evidence that without decent content and decent teachers we will ever see the Internet or other technologies make our kids better educated. The fact that kids can remain riveted to their keyboard for hours and hours a day and can play video games for an equal amount of time tells us that it isn’t their attention span, it’s the content. I have known kids that can’t identify the vice-president of the United States or identify Wyoming as a state, yet they can rattle off batting statistics for every player in the National League. It’s not their ability to learn, it’s their motivation to learn and unless the “cyber-content” is compelling you’ll never get them to put down the video controller and take the time to explore the chemical bond between hydrogen and oxygen that makes water.

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By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/10/cyberlearning-ahem/#comment-71209 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:48:54 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=448#comment-71209 Ken, a bit cynical, but probably too apt. Sometimes, though, it’s worth revisiting an idea. Do recall when it took 3 times to get my advisor interested in ‘explorability’ in interfaces.

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By: Ken Allan https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/10/cyberlearning-ahem/#comment-70863 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:26:23 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=448#comment-70863 Kia ora.

It’s the 21st Century.

Education, in its broadest sense, has covered a lot of ground and many ideas have been revisited since the first flint and tablet.

The best way to appear to innovative when resurrecting an old idea (that people explored decades ago) is to give it a new name. Few people will remember when the old idea was discussed and explored. Many won’t necessarily be old enough to have known about it.

Besides, postmodernism eschews the grand narrative. That’s to say, nobody wants to know the history of any past invention or idea any more. They don’t really want to know about the origins.

So a new name is just the ticket.

Pity about the name.

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By: Jay Cross https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/10/cyberlearning-ahem/#comment-70579 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:02:15 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=448#comment-70579 I think they call it “Cyberlearning” because if you’re blowing $10 million of NSF grant money to develop a proposal for yet more consulting gigs, you better come up with something better than “eLearning” to talk about. I had great expectations after reading the Exec Summary but found the content of this report surprisingly shallow.

What a waste, to have academics doing “research,” only to come up with sources like this one:

Wiener, N. (1948). Cybernetics or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.

Guys, it was a cool book in ’48, but its current relevance is questionable.

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