Comments on: Organizational Learning Infrastructure https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:16:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-72129 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:16:13 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-72129 Tony, agree that Learning Organization has legs, bu don’t know that the C-suite ‘bought’ it. Still, Organizational Learning Infrastructure, for me, does tap into that but also goes beyond. Fingers crossed…

]]> By: Tony Karrer https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-72124 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:35:39 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-72124 So what did you decide? I’m wondering if Learning Organization isn’t a good way to go given that this was pounded into C-level a few years back – they just didn’t have good ways to do it before.

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71936 Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:04:38 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71936 Daan, yes, but despite INATT, I do mean to specifically include technological acceleration, which I didn’t feel much from the ‘Learning Organization’. Working very actively on the ‘getting there’, and seeing some patterns, but it’s still embryonic. Will definitely look up Garvin & Edmondson. Thanks!

]]> By: Daan Assen https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71904 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:36:42 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71904 Clark, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Sounds like you are on track to the good old ‘Learning Organization’. For this concept the term infrastructure is too limited in my opinion. This is one important aspect, but you would also need other conditions for learning to take place. Maybe a look at the recent work of Garvin & Edmondson (HBR) interest you. Still the question: How do we get there? is very complex to answer.

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71853 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:14:21 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71853 Harold, I’ve been pushing the performance ecosystem (parallel to Jay’s learnscape), but that to me is an endgoal of improving the infrastructure. Yes, they can mean the same thing, but I’m *thinking* (and willing to be wrong) that the ecosystem is the goal, and the infrastructure improvement is the process.

Michael, I want to move to more than courses and training: performance support, eCommunity, culture, etc. Does that fit with how you’ve been thinking of it?

]]> By: Michael https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71844 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:03:14 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71844 Well … if learning architect can be used … why not infrastructure? I’m been telling people I concentrate on the infrastructure of online learning for some time now. It is the machinery (technology), conduits (network), road rules (policies) etc. to continue the construction analogy. Anyway, to me, infrastructure is everything “under” the content from the established ID processes, development templates and techniques, delivery technology, and learning environment for the users. I really like how the policies and incentives of online learning were mentioned. The learner’s motivation is a long forgotten component to any training initiative.

]]> By: Harold Jarche https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71831 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:40:10 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71831 Another, slightly overused, term is ecosystem – improving organizational ecosystems (but is that redundant?)

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71818 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:09:40 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71818 Stacy, I like learning architecture, though I wonder if it includes culture as much as ‘infrastructure’ does. I think they’re pretty interchangeable…tho’ I might stick with infrastructure just to have an alternative and see where people resonate. We do need a term that’s beyond ‘training’ for sure!

]]> By: Stacy Doolittle https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71817 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:52:40 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71817 I hesitated to publicly disagree with the esteemed Tony Karrer…but not for long.

The meaning of infrastructure has been morphing in my mind to include exactly the items Clark mentions above.

Yet, this change is not a “done deal” and until it is perhaps there is a better word to consider? Does “improving organizational learning architecture” work? I myself have been using the phrase “learning architecture” to house these things that connect, support, frame, enable learning organizations.

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2008/12/organizational-learning-infrastructure/#comment-71814 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:04:09 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=598#comment-71814 Tony, I do want it to include technology, but other things as well. Do you reckon it implies *only* technology?

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