Comments on: Chatting https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Mon, 02 Jan 2017 20:38:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: Twitter is like shouting at a dinner party https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-890586 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 20:38:49 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-890586 t believe it when Cathy Moore said (in this conversation on the Learnlets.com blog) “Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them […]]]> […] would see everything that I tweet, that I just didn’t believe it when Cathy Moore said (in this conversation on the Learnlets.com blog) “Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them […]

]]> By: Twitter is like shouting at a dinner party - Sky’s Blog https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74261 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:02:08 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74261 t believe it when Cathy Moore said (in this conversation on the Learnlets.com blog) “Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them [...]]]> […] would see everything that I tweet, that I just didn’t believe it when Cathy Moore said (in this conversation on the Learnlets.com blog) “Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them […]

]]> By: Sky https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74249 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:03:32 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74249 t seen the earlier tweets about it is a curiosity :)." LOL, I would guess that the reason I didn't see Marcia's tweet is that I can't read all 500+ tweets a day that come in. And also, I'm human, so I don't remember everything I see. We are all seriously information-overloaded these days!]]> From your post: “sudden flurry of tweets from some people he knew, including me and Marcia Conner (why he hadn’t seen the earlier tweets about it is a curiosity :).” LOL, I would guess that the reason I didn’t see Marcia’s tweet is that I can’t read all 500+ tweets a day that come in. And also, I’m human, so I don’t remember everything I see.

We are all seriously information-overloaded these days!

]]> By: Cathy Moore https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74220 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:07:05 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74220 Sky, as I think you’ve found, the symbols at the beginning of a tweet determine how public it is.

“@JoeShmoe I agree…” = a public reply to Joe. People who follow both you and Joe will see it in their stream. People who don’t follow Joe but who go to your profile to see all your tweets will also see your reply to Joe.

“D JoeShmoe I agree…” = a direct message to Joe. Only Joe will see it.

If a Tweet starts with anything other than those symbols, all your followers will see it immediately. This includes tweets that have @ symbols anywhere else in them.

Complication: If your Tweet includes a hash tag (#ourchat), then everyone who searches on that hashtag will see your tweet. For example, they’ll see your @JoeSchmoe reply even if they don’t follow Joe.

TweetChat works by repeatedly searching for all Tweets that use the same hash tag and displaying them in the “room.” So I can reply to someone in the room that no one there follows and everyone will still see my reply. But my followers who aren’t searching on #ourchat and who don’t follow the person I’ve replied to won’t see my tweet.

That’s why in a chat I participate by replying to the organizer, because I go to business chats organized by people that my elearning audience doesn’t usually follow.

]]> By: Sky https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74213 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:15:38 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74213 Ah, I see now (by reading the Twitter help on this issue). If you start a tweet with @abc then it is treated specially. If you include @abc somewhere else (later in the tweet) it is just passed through. How odd.

]]> By: Sky https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74212 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:11:15 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74212 ve changed their settings so they see everything you say to anyone). It’s a compromise rather than a perfect solution." I was not aware of this, and actually I'm not sure it's true. I thought that everything I tweeted was seen by -all- of my followers, regardless of their relationship with the people I mention. In fact, I count on it. Otherwise how could I tell my followers something like "Hey tweeps, @quinnovator told me today that the sky is green." You're saying that only people who already follow Clark would see my tweet? Doesn't make sense to me.]]> To Cathy Moore: You said “Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them are ones who also follow the person you replied to (unless they’ve changed their settings so they see everything you say to anyone). It’s a compromise rather than a perfect solution.”

I was not aware of this, and actually I’m not sure it’s true. I thought that everything I tweeted was seen by -all- of my followers, regardless of their relationship with the people I mention. In fact, I count on it. Otherwise how could I tell my followers something like “Hey tweeps, @quinnovator told me today that the sky is green.” You’re saying that only people who already follow Clark would see my tweet? Doesn’t make sense to me.

]]> By: Richard Sheehy https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74204 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:21:51 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74204 Hi Clark,
Thanks for the summary of the chat. I was dipping and out while packing for the weekend trip. I understand Harold’s concern about being spammy to the followers not interested in the topic, but I also see the utility of spreading the word about what’s taking place. An imperfect option that came to mind was to use friendfeed. The “room” option may be a way for those not wishing to overwhelm followers and the option to send posts to twitter for those that wish to spread the seeds of the conversation.

Just another option to ponder from an interested “lurker” from the #lrnchat.

Cheers to all,
Richard Sheehy

]]> By: Cathy Moore https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74177 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:20:58 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74177 Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them are ones who also follow the person you replied to (unless they’ve changed their settings so they see everything you say to anyone). It’s a compromise rather than a perfect solution.

I think Twitter is a useful chat mechanism only if the chat entries would be of value to people outside the group. I think this fact can help encourage people to contribute thoughtfully.

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74176 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:15:15 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74176 Thanks for the comments.

Cathy, your advice is what Marcia Conner added to the conversation. Though I think your @’s are still in your stream?

Loretta, I flagged at an hour, then got a second wind, but 2 hours may be a lot.

Scott, hope you can contribute next time.

Sky, not sure whether twitter or not?

Virginia, different channels for different folks, I reckon.

]]> By: Cathy Moore https://blog.learnlets.com/2009/04/chatting/#comment-74167 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:57:54 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934#comment-74167 If you use TweetChat, you can avoid confusing your followers by making each statement a reply to someone in the chat. Since TweetChat automatically adds the appropriate hashtag, everyone in the chat will see your “reply,” whether they follow that person or not, while most of your followers will be spared. You could do the same thing outside TweetChat by replying in the usual way and manually typing the hashtag.

I participate in a business chat (#sbbuzz) that has a formal structure. It opens with introductions, then the leader posts a question that she has collected from participants before the chat or that they DM her doing the chat. As the conversation about one question sputters out, she posts the next.

Near the end of the chat, she posts an announcement that it’s okay to pitch your services.

People stay (mostly) on topic. It’s a 2-hour chat, but it doesn’t seem long because a different business chat ends 1 hour into this one, and some of those participants switch over to “our” chat, which gives it a boost.

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