Comments on: Dropping names https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:53:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: Stephen Downes https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128713 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 23:53:55 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128713 Name your sources, but if they’re not genuinely a source, don’t name them. Do that, and you have nothing to explain to anyone, either way.

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By: Lilianna Taylor https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128697 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 16:09:36 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128697 ll be audacious and say that information sharing and collaboration are some of the principles for the 21 century. So, keep sharing and “dropping the names” - the circle of those who appreciate, is growing =)]]> Definitely YEA! By sharing what you know, and “dropping the names” of those who helped you to get where you are today, you are helping others to build their own understanding. I’ll be audacious and say that information sharing and collaboration are some of the principles for the 21 century. So, keep sharing and “dropping the names” – the circle of those who appreciate, is growing =)

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By: Brian McGowan https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128685 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 11:15:15 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128685 Clark:

There is nothing more intellectually insulting than passing off someone else’s work as your own, it frays the very fabric of science. Attribution is fundamental to any profession – for exactly the reason you state above – but even more alarming is that ‘stealing’ the ideas of others undermines progress. Think of it this way…when someone passes themselves off as the expert and they con people into seeing them as responsible for a theory or practice that arose elsewhere…then that theory or practice is now damned and the field loses fidelity (understanding of who ‘owns’ it and from where it came). Yes the original ‘thought-leader’ may be pushing forward with his or her science, but the impostor is simultaneously corrupting or abusing the branch of theory & science…and the community may not be certain which to believe.

So keep on name-dropping…I will take over-attribution over omission any day of the year…

Brian

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By: Francisca Ocón https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128679 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:50:53 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128679 I completely agree with you Clark

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By: Steve Maul https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128635 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:18:53 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128635 I agree, it adds to your credibility and clearly acknowledges that you’re not representing the thought or ideas as your own. If done too frequently, it can appear as though the entire idea was someone elses, though I doubt that’s what’s happening here.

As someone who both speaks often and is in the audience as well, I also “drop names”… though I try to do it not with any false sense of familiarity. In other words, I don’t speak in terms of, “well, the other day when Bill Gates and I were having coffee…”. Though I will say something, such as, “when Jane Bozarth was presenting at our meeting a while back”, because that indeed happened.

I say, go for it… tone and temperament matter, and you can’t control how other people will interpret the message. Deliver it with pure intent and let the chips fall where they may.

In fact, when I talk about “name dropping” and the concerns around it, I’ll mention your blog as a source.

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By: Mark Britz https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128629 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:13:19 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128629 Yea from me Clark. I have come to believe (from folks like you) that real knowledge is not within people but between us…in the conversations and relationships we form. We owe it to the community to live what we preach – collaboration, community, sharing are what is important today and going forward – our connections and ability to connect are critical to success. If we don’t acknowledge that the ideas we share are not solely are own but are built upon or influenced by others we are being hypocrites.

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By: David Glow https://blog.learnlets.com/2011/10/dropping-names/#comment-128619 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:55:18 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2238#comment-128619 This is not just being honest, it’s also a genuine service.

When someone tweets a #ff or notes “some great insights from @ about “, it exposes me to a wider and deeper range of professionals. Or, with more traditional media, it points me to great research and resources in print.

It’s the right thing to do-not just for giving credit-but sharing valuable resources.

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