Comments on: Three core foundations for online learning

By: Murray Johannsen

Murray Johannsen — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:41:40 +0000

I would add that students not even 20 are attracted to the college experience. I suppose that is described as all the things that are fun, that you wanted to do at 18. It’s the facilities, the sports, the food, the parties, etc.

By: Clark

Clark — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:24:11 +0000

Anne-Laure, it gets into the whole institutional approach: lining up curriculum, pedagogy, infrastructure, and support systems about achieving learning.

And, yes, Chuck, I do mean analytics used to look for patterns. There’s always the possibility for abuse, but if your org is truly pursuing the vision, you’d want to be using the analytics to make faculty better, too. In ways that are authentically about helping them teach better, not extort more work. If they weren’t happy with the pedogogy, they might want to walk, but if they’re sold on it from the basis of empirical work, and everyone bought that happy faculty lead to better outcomes, I think it can be done. Not that that’s easy, but I think it is doable.

Thanks for the comments!

By: Chuck Hodges

Chuck Hodges — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:42:31 +0000

Your three propositions are good ones. I struggle with getting my students to see any value in working together and managing “issues” in groups makes want me want to ditch even trying sometimes. Things like student evaluations for pre-tenure faculty seem to work against it too. Right now I am finding the nerve to continue with it anyway.

I often chat about not truly having a need for an expensive institutionally supported LMS. EDUCAUSE’s ELI group is focusing recently on learning analytics. Is this what you are suggesting with your “signals of potential trouble”? I worry that the analytics from those expensive LMS tools will be turned on the faculty to see things like how often we access the course, respond, etc. I am not sure I would agree with some administrators about what would be signals of potential trouble for a faculty member.

By: Anne-Laure

Anne-Laure — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:25:10 +0000

I mean concrete and practical examples.

By: Anne-Laure

Anne-Laure — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:22:38 +0000

i agree with you. And as an elearning expert i Will have a role to play also. Next question is: how to apply these core values? What are the success keys to implement this?

By: Clark

Clark — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:58:30 +0000

Anne-Laure, thanks for your comment. Briefly, I think going forward, only those orgs that *do* look to the latter two points will be the ones that thrive. As things move faster, a nimble workforce will be required.

By: Anne-LAure thomas

Anne-LAure thomas — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:44:48 +0000

(warning: english as second language) Your approach is very interesting and though I agree with these core values, I question myself on the 2 lasts. I relate my questioning to your last statement “The market is waiting”. I am just wondering whether companies that implement elearning programs really want to develop their employees. Do they? They usually want them to perform better, to be up to date with legal rules, changes into their policies but that’s all. Alas, they miss the point indeed. If they would developed their employees, they would get better results and engagement.

Partner for your success: same again, i am not sure training department partner for success with the employees. Once again, they HAVE TO train them, that’s all.

So it the market waiting something that should come from companies first (in their call for tenders for instance). Online learning makers will then be able to answer these core values in one place.
Hope I am clear!
Thank you for this learnlet!