Comments on: Stop creating, selling, and buying garbage! https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:28:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Internet Time Alliance | Top 50 articles on Working Smarter https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-167591 Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:28:58 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-167591 […] Stop creating, selling, and buying garbage! CLARK QUINN  |  THURSDAY, JANUARY 12, 2012 […]

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By: Internet Time Blog : 50 best articles on Working Smarter for the first half of 2012 https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-167586 Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:24:07 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-167586 […] Stop creating, selling, and buying garbage! CLARK QUINN  |  THURSDAY, JANUARY 12, 2012 […]

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By: 10 Must-Read Articles from January « « DediCommDediComm https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-142620 Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:26:20 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-142620 […] Stop Creating, Selling, and Buying Garbage, Clark Quinn, January 12, 2012 I was thinking today (on my plod around the neighbourhood) about how […]

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By: Ulises M https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-138683 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:58:49 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-138683 Great post. I deal with all the things you mentioned in your post, plus the never-ending politics and bureaucracy that goes on in the non-profit world. I have a rather large number of “resources” made of poorly conceptualized and designed “e-learning” tools.

As for solutions, well, we are after all educators and training professionals, so education should start at home. It’s an uphill battle, but it’s possible to gain ground in the right direction.

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By: Sydney Smith https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-138668 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:22:47 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-138668 Clark,

You are absolutely correct and so in line with published works from performance and management consultants who espouse that successful businesses and leaders need to focus on brand not commoditization of solutions, focus on the why first and let the what and how follow, etc.

I’m watching along to see what ideas pop up. This ship has gone so far off course, I think it is going to take quite a storm or superior navigation to get us all back on course. We are too often at the mercy of the paying customer and our internal sales goals to right the course by ourselves. (I do like the idea of the webinar – or maybe a webinar series – to get the change started or at least pronounce our desired intentions.)

Thanks for starting the discussion!

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By: Kit Behling https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-138409 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:45:17 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-138409 s in the writing that design comes to life for the learner. Things one learns to do as a writer -- putting yourself in the reader’s shoes, finding and telling the story, coming up with a theme or compelling lead – all require creativity. The best writers take an imaginative leap into their readers’ heads, the better to engage them. No, not just “engage” – sometimes charm, seduce, intrigue, or just downright grab them by the collar & pull them into the story. (Okay, so I’m talking copywriters, PR writers, journalists here, maybe not tech writers…) Even in multimedia projects, where sound, visuals, & animation engage interest & convey content as much as words do, I find that writers still "get it" in a way that those in other professional disciplines do not. When it comes to their readers, the best writers know how to hook ‘em and keep ‘em hooked. Insert “learners” for “readers” and the same approach applies.]]> Ken, hear-hear to your comments. As a professional writer with a long career in workplace learning (as an instructor and an instructional designer), but without an advanced degree in ID, I agree. Good design is essential. But it’s in the writing that design comes to life for the learner.

Things one learns to do as a writer — putting yourself in the reader’s shoes, finding and telling the story, coming up with a theme or compelling lead – all require creativity. The best writers take an imaginative leap into their readers’ heads, the better to engage them. No, not just “engage” – sometimes charm, seduce, intrigue, or just downright grab them by the collar & pull them into the story. (Okay, so I’m talking copywriters, PR writers, journalists here, maybe not tech writers…)

Even in multimedia projects, where sound, visuals, & animation engage interest & convey content as much as words do, I find that writers still “get it” in a way that those in other professional disciplines do not.

When it comes to their readers, the best writers know how to hook ‘em and keep ‘em hooked. Insert “learners” for “readers” and the same approach applies.

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By: L2A Links for January 17th | Learn to Adapt https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-138191 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:52:48 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-138191 […] Stop creating, selling, and buying garbage! – […]

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By: eLearning Consultant https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-137601 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:46:43 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-137601 Follow the money. Develop a free educational seminar/video whatever and push it out to big business. Show them the irrefutable value proposition of good eLearning and how to spot it when you see it. Hopefully they will demand it from vendors and vendors will be forced to change. Sounds simple;)

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By: ilianna munro https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-137557 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 01:03:01 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-137557 I agree with Clark’s insights. It’s good to see I’m not the only one who thinks some of these things. I believe that one reason for the quality of elearning you’re talking about is that the business is not willing to spend the money on developing the learning and on letting staff take the appropriate time needed to take part in good quality learning solutions and this is because there is no demonstrable ROI for the quality learning solutions. Interestingly, I haven’t seen any ROIs done by training management during my career over the last 20 years. I know it’s not an easy task, however, if L&D can’t demonstrate the value of good quality learning to the business and compete with other departments who can demonstrate how they add value then we have little hope in obtaining funding for good quality learning solutions.

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By: Ken Hubbell https://blog.learnlets.com/2012/01/stop-creating-selling-and-buying-garbage/#comment-137127 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:50:23 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=2399#comment-137127 While working as the Instructional Technology Manager for a large learning professional services company several years ago, I made the mistake of actually reading the content we were producing and commented to my boss that there were significant grammatical and visual errors. As a reward for this, he asked me to mark up some of the issues and put together a plan for addressing the problem. The more I dug into it, the worse it got, and I realized after speaking with a number of our instructional designers that they had little or no real writing experience. What? You are an instructional designer with a Master’s Degree abd have little or no background in writing?

This was a marketed contrast to when I first started in the business over twenty-five years ago. At that time, interactive video was the rage, and communicating the subject matter also involved telling a story of sorts. We hired former copywiters and video journalists to produce our learning materials because they knew how to conduct an interview and then convey the material in a way that their audience needed to consume it. Eventually we went as far as to bring Sony Interactive in to train them on basic ISD skills, but for the most part these communication professionals already understood what they needed to do to provide good learning content.

My point, if not clear already, is that the content is critical. The writing must convey the objectives, not distract from them because of poor execution. There must be continuity across the course, not just a bunch of slides developed in isolation to address specific objectives instead of the course as a whole. And, quality control is vital to the success of your product. That a course ever goes out with poor grammar or bad visuals affects everyone in our industry, especially the learners.

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