Comments on: Buy this…for your boss https://blog.learnlets.com/2015/10/buy-this-for-your-boss/ Clark Quinn's learnings about learning Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:48:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2015/10/buy-this-for-your-boss/#comment-821241 Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:48:37 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=4537#comment-821241 In reply to Paul Foreman.

Paul, absolutely agree that there’s a need for courses, but not as the only arrow in our quiver. I might quibble about whether the new leave policy or payroll system are appropriate topics (seem more appropriate to performance support), but certainly there will be proprietary processes that will require training. We too often do courses badly, but there are definitely roles for them, as well as performance support, and the social network. Keeping our eye on the bigger picture will help us use courses when appropriate, and then we’re likely to understand why they should be done well.

]]> By: Paul Foreman https://blog.learnlets.com/2015/10/buy-this-for-your-boss/#comment-821239 Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:20:52 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=4537#comment-821239 You have some very good insight however, there are and will be in the foreseeable future – many liability issues and a need for the “training” that we seem so eager to leave behind. I would suggest that there will continue to be a place for the ‘course provider’ but that isn’t a curse if it is managed in an effective and engaging way. You can not YouTube or Google the new leave policy or how the in-house payroll system works – that and other subjects unique to the enterprise are topics which will still have to be provided/trained. If there is fault to be had, it is in not making those unique expectations and the delivery of them a part of the core of the organization and being part of the business and not behaving as an ‘add on’ element. Be aware of and provide for the needs of the end user but also remember the organization has needs too which have to be provided for.

]]> By: Clark https://blog.learnlets.com/2015/10/buy-this-for-your-boss/#comment-821151 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:16:27 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=4537#comment-821151 Brian, spot on that it’s our fault. Our role has been (self-)relegated to that of ‘course provider’. Which is increasingly irrelevant. With people end-running L&D to use Google & Youtube, attend conferences, watch free webinars, and more, and as L&D keeps pushing boring compliance courses, the organization is going to stop seeing L&D as a viable entity to receive funding. And this is a shame, in my opinion. The opportunity is to be a core contributor to the organization via facilitating innovation and creating an ecosystem of resources to optimize the workflow (job aids, mentoring & coaching, experts, collaborators, and yes, even courses). But we have to own that vision, sell it, and deliver on it. My book is written to the L&D & HR manager and executive to get the picture and ‘get’ the change. Then *they* will need to sell it. Thanks for the contribution!

]]> By: Brian Wrest https://blog.learnlets.com/2015/10/buy-this-for-your-boss/#comment-821147 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:31:45 +0000 http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=4537#comment-821147 While I’ve not read it, myself and fellow practitioners (when will we stop practicing and start “doing”?) all feel the same way. So I’ll give this book a go. But what I experience is the lack of understanding with those who are not L&D professionals. In my past and current experiences within an L&D role I’ve seen much misunderstanding about our role and what we should offer to end-users. In general, until we can prove our worth, we will not be on the same level as a marketer, sales advisor, electrical/mechanical engineer, lean practitioner. And it’s our fault.

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