Learnlets

Secondary

Clark Quinn’s Learnings about Learning

The role of the university?

27 October 2010 by Clark 7 Comments

Unhappy in many ways with the current status of education, particularly here in the US, I’ve been thinking a lot about what would make sense. What’s the role of K12, and then what’s the role of a university?   Some thoughts recently coalesced that I thought I’d put out and see what reaction I get.

The issue, to me, covers several things.   Now, I talked some time ago about my ongoing search for wisdom, and the notion of a wise curriculum coupled with a wise pedagogy very much permeate my thinking. However, I’m probably going to be a bit more mundane here.   I just want to think what we might want to cover, and how.

Let me start with the premise that what needs to be learned to be a productive member of society needs to be learned before university, as not everyone goes further.   If we truly believe (and we should) that 21st Century skills of learning, research, communication, leadership, etc, are skills everyone needs, then those are K12 goals. Naturally, of course, we also include literacy of many sorts (not just reading and writing), and ideally, thinking like a mathematician and scientist (not science and math).

However, if those are accomplished in K12 (when I’ve previously argued learning how to think might be the role of the university, and now think it’s got to be before then), then what is the role of university?   Given that the half-life of knowledge is less than four years, focusing on preparing for a lifetime of performance is out of the question.   Similarly, pursuing one fixed course of study won’t make sense anymore, as the fields are beginning to change, and the arbitrary categorizations won’t make sense. So what then?

I’m thinking of going back to the original Oxbridge model.   In the old days, you were assigned a tutor (and advisor), and you met with that person regularly. They’d have a discussion with you, recommend some activities (read X, solve Y), and send you on your way. It was a customized solution.   Since then, for a variety of reasons (scale, mostly), the model’s turned into a mass-production model.   However, we now have the power of technology.

What if we moved to a system where individuals could spend some time exploring particular areas (like the first two years or so of college), and then put together a proposal of what they wanted to do, and how they’d pursue it, and the proposal would be vetted. Once approved, there’d be regular updates. Sure, there’d likely be some templates around for learning, but it’d be more self-directed, customizable, and put the appropriate responsibility on the learner.

I may be biased, as I designed my own major (UCSD’s Muir campus had a mechanism to design your own degree, and as they didn’t have a learning technology program…) as an undergraduate, and again you propose your research as a PhD candidate, but I think there’s a lot to recommend a learner taking responsibility for what they’re going to study and why. Granted, universities don’t do a good enough job of articulating why a program sequence has particular courses in it, but I think it’s even better if a learner at least has to review and defend it, if not choose it themselves.

Naturally, some domain-specific learning skills would emerge, but this would provide a more flexible system to match how specializations are changing so dynamically, serve as a model for life, and put the responsibility of faculty members more to mentorship and less to lecture. It would necessitate a change in pedagogy as well.

I think, in the long term, this sort of model has to be adopted.   In the short term, it will wreak havoc with things like accreditation, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing, given the flaws we’re beginning to see in the existing system, both non- and for-profit.   I reckon the for-profits might be able to move quicker, but there will be battles.   And, of course, changing faculty minds reminds me of the old joke: “How many academics does it take to change a lightbulb?”   “Change?” (And I *was* one!)

Naturally, this has implications for K12 too, as many have articulately argued that the pedagogy needs to change there as well, following the learners’ interests.   Likewise the notion of educational publishing (where is that iPad replacement for my kid’s texts?).   Those are topics for another day.

So, does this make sense? What am I missing?

Comments

  1. virginia Yonkers says

    27 October 2010 at 4:48 PM

    Coming from an interdisciplinary background both in studying and teaching in the university, there are some other institutional barriers today (besides the strengthening of accreditation requirements and the push at the university level to create standardized testing as there is at the k-12 levels) that prohibit the type of flexibility you propose.

    First, the current financial model of higher ed is based on the ability for graduates to find a job after college. More and more, businesses are hiring graduates based on finite skills rather than a person’s ability to learn a job. In other words, you will need to know how to learn a skill for the interview. As a result, many colleges and universities will go to the businesses, ask the skills they need in order to get their graduates hired, and integrate that into their curriculum, programs, etc… The student learns what he or she needs to get a job, therefore, not what they are interested in.

    Related to this is that the programs the generate the most employed, get the biggest budget. Those that can generate outside income (through grants, research funds, etc…) will continue to be able to offer their courses. However, interdisciplinary courses do not fair well with this model as grants and research funds often require specialization. Faculty are valued based on the specialized research they conduct which often must fit into a narrow category within a field of study. So, I currently am doing research on knowledge building in distributed groups. This crosses disciplines between applied psychology, communication, management, writing, education, and sociology. While the study is very narrow, and I know of many who are interested in my work, there is no money out there for research because it does not fit into a nice neat category.

    So I think to change our current system, it is necessary to start at both ends of the educational system. It is nice to learn something new and pick and choose your major. However, unless you develop a skill that will make you marketable in our society, you should keep the learning limited to your free time.

  2. Clark says

    27 October 2010 at 4:58 PM

    Virginia, you raise important issues. I believe, however, that business will start recognizing that professionals whose expertise comes from passion about a topic, with a study plan vetted by experts in the field (there will likely be committees for cross-disciplinary studies), and of course still ‘off-the-shelf’ degrees, are more valuable than the current “pass ’em thru” calcified degrees. Okay, so maybe it’s a few years out ;).

    I expect narrow research to continue, but your sort of cross-disciplinary work is increasingly recognized as the source of more useful innovations (as a complement to the deep discipline work, not as a replacement). Yes, funding needs to follow societal recognition of this.

    And you’re spot on that it needs to come from both ends. I note that when I designed my own major, I only preceded the market, it’s not that I contradicted it!

  3. Angela says

    29 October 2010 at 12:08 PM

    Hi Clark,

    As always, love your brilliance, and I’m going to require some clarification on a blog statement you made…”thinking like a mathematician and scientist (not science and math)”. If I was following your stream of thought, it seemed that one of the important elements of higher education is to foster one’s ability to learn – learning to learn (which could encompass SDL, LLL, critical thinking, complex problem solving, etc.). Then, the statement about thinkng like a scientist came up….and I lost the flow of the thought. In your view, what does a scientist or mathematician think like (’cause I’m thinking…procedural, ‘right’ answer’, formulaic)? I’m all ears!

  4. Julie Michener says

    29 October 2010 at 3:08 PM

    It’s something that St. Catherine University leaders have been defining as the University has implemented an academic reorganization. It begins with caring and strategic advising for the student, core curriculum that helps the student discover where they want to go and then guiding them with options for faculty/student research collaborations, internships and other experiences that develop their core skills along with communications and critical thinking abilities. It’s liberal arts based – no matter what the major as students need to learn to learn for a lifetime.

  5. Clark says

    29 October 2010 at 4:05 PM

    Great feedback! Julie, thanks for the example; I think that’s great credit to St. Catherine’s. I agree with the liberal arts focus, though sometimes I wonder if that’s *supposed* to be done in high school (which is what Australia and the UK claim when they have 3 year college degrees without a general ed requirement but are instead very domain-focused).

    Angela, I’m referring to what Seymour Papert said: “I don’t want to teach kids mathematics, I want to teach them to think like mathematicians”. Similarly for teaching them to think like scientists, not to just learn science. It’s about systematicity, hypotheses, experimentation, analysis. It’s another take on learning to learn, but it’s meta-cognition in a broader sense. Hope that helps!

  6. John Andrew Williams says

    1 November 2010 at 11:37 AM

    This is a very interesting blog. I would like to add that the effectiveness of the educational system would be incredibly enhanced if the mentioned ideas are paired with informed students. Having learned essential life skills, I have seen all of my students experience a complete turnaround in their lives regarding education and life in general.
    It is incredible to think about the potential of learners given meaningful skills and a refined educational context.

Trackbacks

  1. On Spoiled Babies, Snowflakes, and Apprenticeship | The Big Picture of Learning and Technology says:
    29 October 2010 at 12:09 PM

    […] It seems lately that the higher education story tellers are calling for a resurgence of a more apprenticeship-like model of education.  Frustrated with the “mass production” model of education created by the Industrial revolution metaphor, voices are clamoring for a more personalized version of learning: I’m thinking of going back to the original Oxbridge model.  In the old days, you were assigned a tutor (and advisor), and you met with that person regularly. They’d have a discussion with you, recommend some activities (read X, solve Y), and send you on your way. It was a customized solution.  Since then, for a variety of reasons (scale, mostly), the model’s turned into a mass-production model.  However, we now have the power of technology. – Clark Quinn, The Role of the University? […]

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Clark Quinn

The Company

Search

Feedblitz (email) signup

Never miss a post
Your email address:*
Please wait...
Please enter all required fields Click to hide
Correct invalid entries Click to hide

Pages

  • About Learnlets and Quinnovation

The Serious eLearning Manifesto

Manifesto badge

Categories

  • design
  • games
  • meta-learning
  • mindmap
  • mobile
  • social
  • strategy
  • technology
  • Uncategorized
  • virtual worlds

License

Previous Posts

  • May 2025
  • April 2025
  • March 2025
  • February 2025
  • January 2025
  • December 2024
  • November 2024
  • October 2024
  • September 2024
  • August 2024
  • July 2024
  • June 2024
  • May 2024
  • April 2024
  • March 2024
  • February 2024
  • January 2024
  • December 2023
  • November 2023
  • October 2023
  • September 2023
  • August 2023
  • July 2023
  • June 2023
  • May 2023
  • April 2023
  • March 2023
  • February 2023
  • January 2023
  • December 2022
  • November 2022
  • October 2022
  • September 2022
  • August 2022
  • July 2022
  • June 2022
  • May 2022
  • April 2022
  • March 2022
  • February 2022
  • January 2022
  • December 2021
  • November 2021
  • October 2021
  • September 2021
  • August 2021
  • July 2021
  • June 2021
  • May 2021
  • April 2021
  • March 2021
  • February 2021
  • January 2021
  • December 2020
  • November 2020
  • October 2020
  • September 2020
  • August 2020
  • July 2020
  • June 2020
  • May 2020
  • April 2020
  • March 2020
  • February 2020
  • January 2020
  • December 2019
  • November 2019
  • October 2019
  • September 2019
  • August 2019
  • July 2019
  • June 2019
  • May 2019
  • April 2019
  • March 2019
  • February 2019
  • January 2019
  • December 2018
  • November 2018
  • October 2018
  • September 2018
  • August 2018
  • July 2018
  • June 2018
  • May 2018
  • April 2018
  • March 2018
  • February 2018
  • January 2018
  • December 2017
  • November 2017
  • October 2017
  • September 2017
  • August 2017
  • July 2017
  • June 2017
  • May 2017
  • April 2017
  • March 2017
  • February 2017
  • January 2017
  • December 2016
  • November 2016
  • October 2016
  • September 2016
  • August 2016
  • July 2016
  • June 2016
  • May 2016
  • April 2016
  • March 2016
  • February 2016
  • January 2016
  • December 2015
  • November 2015
  • October 2015
  • September 2015
  • August 2015
  • July 2015
  • June 2015
  • May 2015
  • April 2015
  • March 2015
  • February 2015
  • January 2015
  • December 2014
  • November 2014
  • October 2014
  • September 2014
  • August 2014
  • July 2014
  • June 2014
  • May 2014
  • April 2014
  • March 2014
  • February 2014
  • January 2014
  • December 2013
  • November 2013
  • October 2013
  • September 2013
  • August 2013
  • July 2013
  • June 2013
  • May 2013
  • April 2013
  • March 2013
  • February 2013
  • January 2013
  • December 2012
  • November 2012
  • October 2012
  • September 2012
  • August 2012
  • July 2012
  • June 2012
  • May 2012
  • April 2012
  • March 2012
  • February 2012
  • January 2012
  • December 2011
  • November 2011
  • October 2011
  • September 2011
  • August 2011
  • July 2011
  • June 2011
  • May 2011
  • April 2011
  • March 2011
  • February 2011
  • January 2011
  • December 2010
  • November 2010
  • October 2010
  • September 2010
  • August 2010
  • July 2010
  • June 2010
  • May 2010
  • April 2010
  • March 2010
  • February 2010
  • January 2010
  • December 2009
  • November 2009
  • October 2009
  • September 2009
  • August 2009
  • July 2009
  • June 2009
  • May 2009
  • April 2009
  • March 2009
  • February 2009
  • January 2009
  • December 2008
  • November 2008
  • October 2008
  • September 2008
  • August 2008
  • July 2008
  • June 2008
  • May 2008
  • April 2008
  • March 2008
  • February 2008
  • January 2008
  • December 2007
  • November 2007
  • October 2007
  • September 2007
  • August 2007
  • July 2007
  • June 2007
  • May 2007
  • April 2007
  • March 2007
  • February 2007
  • January 2007
  • December 2006
  • November 2006
  • October 2006
  • September 2006
  • August 2006
  • July 2006
  • June 2006
  • May 2006
  • April 2006
  • March 2006
  • February 2006
  • January 2006

Amazon Affiliate

Required to announce that, as an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. Mostly book links. Full disclosure.

We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it.Ok