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Diving or surfacing?

25 June 2024 by Clark Leave a Comment

Bubbles in water with light behindIn my regular questing, one of the phenomena I continue to explore is design. Investigating, for instance, reveals that, contrary to recommendations, designers approach practice more pragmatically. That’s something I’ve been experiencing both in my work with clients and recent endeavors. So, reflecting, are and should folks be diving or surfacing?

The original issue is how designers design. If you look at recommendations, they typically recommend starting at the top level conceptualization and work down, such as Jesse James Garrett’s Information Architecture approach (PDF of the Elements of User Experience; note that he puts the highest level of conceptualization at the bottom and argues to work up). Empirically, however, designers switch between top-down and bottom-up. What do I do?

Well, it of course depends on the project. Many times (and, ideally), I’m brought in early, to help conceptualize the strategy, leveraging learning science, design, organizational context, and more. I tend to lead the project’s top-level description, creating a ‘blueprint’ of where to go. From there, more pragmatic approaches make sense (e.g. bringing in developers). Then, I’m checking on progress, not doing the implementation. I suppose that’s like an architect. That is, my role is to stay at the top-level.

In other instances, I’m doing more. I frequently collaborate with the team to develop a solution. Or, sometimes, I get concrete to help communicate the vision that the blueprint documents. Which,  in working with an unfamiliar team, isn’t unusual. That ‘telepathy’ comes with getting to know folks ;).

In those other instances, I too will find out that pragmatic constraints influence the overarching conceptualization, and work back up to see how the guidelines need to be adapted to account for the particular instance. Or we need to deconnect from the details to remember what our original objective is. This isn’t a problem! In general, we should expect that ongoing development unearths realities that weren’t visible from above, and vice versa. We may have good general principles, (e.g. from learning science), but then we need to adapt them to our circumstances, which are unlikely to exactly match. In general, we need to abstract the best principles, and then de- and re-contextualize.

I find that while it’s harder work to wrestle with the details (more pay for IDs! ;), it’s very worthwhile. What’s developed is better as a result of testing and refining. In fact, this is a good argument about why we should iterate (and build it into our timelines and budgets). It’s hubris to assume that ‘if we build it, it is good’. So, let’s not assume we can either be diving or surfacing, but instead recognize we should cycle between them. Start at the top and work down, but then regularly check back up too!

Reflecting on adaptive learning technology

11 June 2024 by Clark 1 Comment

My last real job before becoming independent (long story ;) was leading a team developing an adaptive learning platform. The underlying proposition was the basis for a topic I identified as one of my themes. Thinking about it in the current context I realize that there’re some new twists. So here I’m reflecting on adaptive learning technology.

So, my premise for the past couple of decades is to decouple what learners see from how it’s delivered. That is, have discreet learning ‘objects’, and then pull them together to create the experience. I’ve argued elsewhere that the right granularity was by learning role: concepts are separate from examples, from practice, etc. (I had team members participating in the standards process.) The adaptive platform was going to use these learning objects to customize the sequence for different learners. This was both within a particular learning objective, and across a map of the entire task hierarchy.

The way the platform was going to operate was typical in intelligent tutoring systems, with a twist. We had a model of the learner, and a model of the pedagogy, but not an explicit model of expertise. Instead, the expertise was intrinsic to the task hierarchy. This was easier to develop, though unlikely to be as effective. Still, it was scalable, and using good learning science behind the programming, it should do a good job.

Moreover, we were going to then have machine learning, over time, improve the model. With enough people using the system, we would be able to collect data to refine the parameters of the teaching model. We could possibly be collecting valuable learning science evidence as well.

One of the barriers was developing content to our specific model. Yet I believed then, and still now, that if you developed it to a standard, it should be interoperable. (We’re glossing over lots of other inside arguments, such as whether smart object or smart system, how to add parameters, etc.) That was decades ago, and our approach was blindsided by politics and greed (long sordid story best regaled privately over libations). While subsequent systems have used a similar approach (*cough* Knewton *cough*), there’s not an open market, nor does SCORM or xAPI specifically provide the necessary standard.

Artificial intelligence (AI) has changed over time. While evolutionary, it appears revolutionary in what we’ve seen recently. Is there anything there for our purposes? I want to suggest no. Tom Reamy, author of Deep Text, argues that hybrids of symbolic and sub-symbolic AI (generative AI is an instance of the latter) have potential, and that’s what we were doing. Systems trained on the internet or other corpuses of images and/or text aren’t going to provide the necessary guidance. If you had a sufficient quantity of data about learning experiences with the characteristics of your own system, you could do it, but if it exists it’s proprietary.

For adaptive learning about tasks (not knowledge; a performance focus means we’re talking about ‘do’, not know), you need to focus on tasks. That isn’t something AI really understands, as it doesn’t really have a way to comprehend context. You can tell it, but it also doesn’t necessarily know learning science either (ChatGPT can still promote learning styles!). And, I don’t think we have enough training data to train a machine learning system to do a good job of adapting learning. I suppose you could use learning science to generate a training set, but why? Why not just embed it in rules, and have the rules work to generate recommendations (part of our algorithm was a way to handle this)? And, as said, once you start running you will eventually have enough data to start tuning the rules.

Look, I can see using generative AI to provide text, or images, but not sequencing, at least not without a rich model. Can AI generate adaptive plans? I’m skeptical. It can do it for knowledge, for sure, generating a semantic tree. However, I don’t yet see how it can decide what application of that knowledge means, systematically. Happy to be wrong, but until I’m presented with a mechanism, I’m sticking to explicit learning rules. So, where am I wrong?

What I’m up to

4 June 2024 by Clark Leave a Comment

Ok, so it’s been a wee bit too much about me (my books, themes), yet it occurs to me that I should document what I’m doing. (Which I’ve done before, but this is looking forward, too.) Not just for me (though it helps ;), but it’s because I realized my thinking other than books is actually getting spread out in various places. So, here’s what I’m up to…

Mostly, it’s centering around applying the cognitive and learning sciences to the design of solutions. In a variety of ways, of course. I’ve been working with Upside Learning, serving as their Chief Learning Strategist. They want to do more than pay lip service to learning science (which I laud). I’m working with them on evangelism, internal development, and more. I’m also working with Elevator 9, in this case as advisor. They’re a platform solution to complement live events, again doing so in alignment with our brains. I’m also serving as co-director of the Learning Development Accelerator. That’s a society focused on evidence-informed L&D, and we explore what this approach means in practice. In each, I’ve been advancing my own understanding, and sharing the learnings.

So, at LDA, you can find our podcasts, blog posts (some of which are free to air!), and some programs (some likewise). For members, we’re running some internal programs as well. I’ve been pleased to augment my previous program on You Oughta Know with this year’s YOK Practitioner, where I get to interview some really amazing people. Then there’s also the Think Like A…series, where we talk to representatives of adjacent fields we (should) be plagiarizing. Then there are workshops, and we’re always developing more things.

At Elevator 9, while most of the work is behind the scenes, I did author, and David Grad (the CEO) read and taped, a series of ‘liftologies’. These are short videos  talking about the learning science that goes into their offering. When they redo the website, they’ll be easy to find, but right now they’re visible through the E9 LinkedIn page posts.

Upside Learning, on the other hand, has been proactive. They do a podcast with the CEO, Amit Garg (yes, I’ve been on it). They have a blog (and I’ve written some for them). I’ve also done some quick videos on myths. In addition, I’ve written some of their ebooks (topics like impact, microlearning, scenarios). And, of course, some webinars as well. These continue.

All this in conjunction with continuing as Quinnovation! I continue with a few clients, on a limited basis. These, of course, are not public, though the thoughts can percolate out (e.g. in this blog). I’m still doing some events, mostly virtually. For instance, I’ll be talking about the alignment between effective education and engaging events at LXDCon on Tues the 11th (at 7AM PT ). I’ll also be at DevLearn and Learning 2024.

That’s all I can think of at the moment. There’s more in the offing, of course. But for now, that’s what I’m up to. This blog may be (more than) enough, but the other sites prompt different thinking. They’re worth knowing about on their own, too!  If you’re interested, these are places to either become evidence-based, apply it, or get it done. Obviously, it’s something I think is important for our industry. (As is knowing the human information processing loop, which I’ve made freely available.) Whatever you do, however you do it, please do avoid the myths and apply the science.

An outside perspective

14 May 2024 by Clark 1 Comment

Hand holding lensSomeone reached out to me for a case study on addressing a workplace problem. I was willing, but there’s a small problem; I’ve never had to address a workplace learning problem. At least, in the way most people expect. Instead, I provide an outside perspective. What’s that mean?

So, first of all, I don’t come from an instructional design (ID) background. I did get some exposure to educational approaches when I designed my own undergraduate degree in Computer-Based Education. Yet, there weren’t any ID courses where I was a student. As a graduate student, I took psychology courses on learning. I also read Reigeluth’s survey of ID design approaches. Further, I got a chance to interview the gracious and wise David Merrill. But, again, no formal ID courses were on tap.

On the flip side, I was in a vibrant program that was developing a cognitive science degree, and read everything on learning I could find: behavioral, cognitive, social, neural, even machine learning! I was in my post-doc as they were forming the learning science approach, too, and I was at a relevant institution. Still, no ID. So, I do have deep learning roots, just not ID.

Then, after the post-doc, I taught. That is, practiced learning design, and continued reading and talking ID, and attending relevant conferences. Just not a formal ID course. Then I joined a small startup to design an adaptive learning platform, and then started consulting, but never a workplace learning role inwardly faced.

What that means is that I bring an ‘outside’ perspective to L&D. Which, I think, isn’t a bad thing. I’ve helped firms meet realistic goals in innovative ways, courtesy of not having my thinking pre-constrained. I’ve been able to interpret learning science in practical terms, and infer what ID says (also, I’ve read it and reflected in context on it). So, I’ve talked L&D design, and ID improvements, but from the view of an outsider.

Many times outsiders can bring new perspectives. And, they can be ignorant of all the contextual details. Thus, it’s really important to ask and establish those constraints, and then to be sensitive to the ones that they didn’t mention. (One of the benefits of the court jester was to reframe things in ways that showed the humor in the hidden assumptions.) Still, I’m not apologizing. I think the background I’ve acquired is useful to people who need to meet real goals, and have a decent track record in doing so. I welcome your thoughts on whether an outside perspective is of benefit.

Support retention and transfer

23 April 2024 by Clark Leave a Comment

In a discussion we were having with David Ganulin on marketing, my colleague Matt Richter ended up talking about how many ‘team building’ activities don’t work. The typical model is an event where folks get together off-campus and face challenges together. They have to work together to overcome the challenges. Yet, Matt’s claim was that the empirical evidence was that the results didn’t transfer back to the workplace. What does it take? How can we support transfer to achieve persistent results?

The classic model is the ‘ropes course’. Folks have to work together to get everyone safely across some challenge. By working together to achieve success, you should build team cohesion and respect the different capabilities of your colleagues. Yet, investigations suggest that what’s learned doesn’t carry back to the workplace. People who got along, when they get back to the workplace, can be surprised and disappointed that the same conflicts exist.

What’s happening, of course, is context-specificity. The resulting benefits worked in the context of the team-building, but it’s not the same context as work. Just like the ‘brain training’ exercises didn’t transfer to other tasks, so to any learning is likely to dissipate quickly and still not transfer to another context. What do we need to do, then, to generate retention over time and support transfer to the workplace as well?

For one, we need more than one practice. I just read the results of interesting research suggesting two stages of memory. The first stage says initial memories can last briefly, but for sustained retention, you need a second stage of retrieval practice. Yes, we should know that, but too often we don’t practice it! (Which also suggests that a test at the end of a learning event may not be a good indicator!) Also, I’ll suggest, if we want appropriate transfer, we have to engineer it.

How do you engineer transfer? I’ll posit two steps. For one, you need experience across several different contexts. So, do task A together, then B which is widely different, then C, which is different again. You could do a task that requires different physical attributes (tall, small, strong, heavy), and then one that requires different creative approaches (art, music, prose). Along the way, you reinforce a particular team approach that works across contexts. You facilitate reflection, as well, on what’s common.

Matt went further, suggesting that then you need to take that facilitation back to the workplace, and I’ll agree that it’d be ideal. If you then brought the models back to the workplace and facilitated their application to situations at work, you could extend the internalization and appropriate re-contextualization of the learning.

One-shot events are unlikely to generate the sustained transfer you need, at least not without specific design and support. If you’re not trying to achieve retention (over time after the event until needed) and transfer (to all appropriate and no inappropriate) situations, why bother? If you do want retention and transfer (and you should), design for it. Specifically engineer to support retention and transfer. Use spaced repetition with increased challenge to achieve the former. Use contextual variance and reflection facilitation to support the latter. When you do, you’ll have outcomes worth the investment.

Misplaced organizational focus?

26 March 2024 by Clark 3 Comments

Conjunctions are interesting learning opportunities. When two things provide different facets, particularly on something you’ve been thinking about, it’s serendipitous. In this case, two widely different readings triggered some reflections asking whether perhaps we’ve a misplaced organizational focus.

So, I’ve been a bit concerned about the rabid interest in generative AI. Not that I think it’s inherently bad, despite its flaws. Instead, my concern is the uses it’s put to. If you think about the classic engineering proposition – cheap, fast, or good; pick 2 – you know you can apply AI to any of the areas. Always, however, it seems that the focus is on cheap and fast. Which concerns me. There’s substantial evidence that our L&D efforts aren’t having an impact. Thus, doing bad faster and cheaper is still bad!

Part of this, it seemed to me, to stem from a rabid focus on short-term returns. I read The Japan That Can Say No many moons ago, and became convinced that a purely financial focus isn’t in the long-term interests of organizations. Now, there’re reinforcement!

First, in Australian news was a report about how a famous economist was rethinking the role of economics. While I didn’t agree with all of it, one aspect that resonated was captured in these bits:

“…we have largely stopped thinking about ethics and about what constitutes human well-being. We are technocrats who focus on efficiency…We often equate well-being with money or consumption, missing much of what matters to people.”

The juxtaposition happened with this quote aggregated by Learnnovators and posted to LinkedIn:

” The early signals of what A.I. can do should compel us to think differently about ourselves as a species. …Those skills are ones we all possess and can improve, yet they have never been properly valued in our economy or prioritized in our education and training…”
– Aneesh Raman, VP, Workforce Expert at LinkedIn & Maria Flynn, President & CEO of Jobs for the Future (JFF)

The overlap, to me, has to do with the undervaluing of what humans bring to the economic table. Efficiency isn’t the only good. Pushing L&D to do ‘box ticking’ learning design faster and cheaper isn’t consonant with recognizing what gives our work meaning. Besides undervaluing what learning design could and should be, it’s disrespectful to the learners and the organization.

I think that what’s driving organizations should be how they contribute to society as a whole. The means to that end is creating an internal environment conducive to supporting people, individually and collectively, to contribute their best in ways that respect what we offer. There are things technology can do that, frankly, we as people shouldn’t. Similarly, there are things we can do that we shouldn’t abrogate. To paraphrase the meme, I don’t want people doing menial tasks leaving the creativity to machines.

A holistic synergy, each doing what they do best to augment the other, alone and together, is optimal. Our economics should support that as well, and to the extent our structures don’t, it may be time to rethink them. Otherwise, it’s a misplaced organizational focus. Thoughts?

Engineering solutions

19 March 2024 by Clark 1 Comment

Every once in a while, I wonder what I’m doing (ok, not so infrequently ;). And it’s easy to think it’s about applying what’s known about learning to the design of solutions. However, it’s more. It is about applying science results to designing improvements, but, it’s broader than learning, and not just individual. Here are some reflections on engineering solutions.

As I’ve probably regaled you with before, I was designing and programming educational computer games, and asking questions like “should we use spacebar and return, or number keys to navigate through menus?” (This was a long time ago.) I came across an article that argued for ‘cognitive engineering’, applying what we knew about how we think to the design of systems. Innately I understood that this also applied to the design of learning. I ended up studying with the author of the article, getting a grounding in what was, effectively, ‘applied cognitive science’.

Now, my focus on games has been on them as learning solutions, and that includes scenarios and simulation-driven experiences. But, when looking for solutions, I realize that learning isn’t always the answer. Many times, for instance, we are better off with ‘distributed‘ cognition. That is, putting the answer in the world instead of in our heads. This is broader than learning, and invokes cognitive science. Also, quite frankly, many problems are just based in bad interface designs!  Thus, we can’t stop at learning. We truly are more about performance than learning.

In a sense, we’re engineers; applying learning and cognitive science to the design of solutions, (just as chemical engineering is about applying chemistry). Interestingly, the term learning engineering has another definition. This one talks about using the benefits of engineering approaches, such as data, and technology-at-scale, to design solutions. For instance, making adaptive systems requires integrating content management, artificial intelligence, learning design, and more.

Historically, our initial efforts in technology-facilitated learning did take teams. The technology wasn’t advanced enough, and it took learning designers, software engineers, interface designers and more to generate solutions like Plato, intelligent tutoring systems, and the like.  I’ve argued that Web 1.0 took the integration of the tech, content design, and more, which usually was more than one person could handle. Now, we’ve created powerful tools that allow anyone to create content. Which may be a problem! The teams used to ensure quality. Hopefully, the shift back comes with a focus on process.

We can apply cognitive science to our own design processes. We’ve evolved many tools to support not making reliable mistakes: design processes, tools like checklists, etc. I’ll suggest that moving to tools that make it easy to produce content haven’t been scaffolded with support to do the right thing. (In fact, good design makes it hard to do bad things, but our authoring tools have been almost the opposite!)  There’s some hope that the additional complexity will focus us back on quality instead of being a tool for quantity. I’m not completely optimistic in the short term, but eventually we may find that tools that let us focus on knowledge aren’t the answer.

I’m thinking we will start looking at how we can use tools to help us do good design. You know the old engineering mantra: good, fast, and cheap, pick 2. Well, I am always on about ‘good’. How do we make that an ongoing factor? Can we put in constraints so it’s hard to do bad design? Hmm… An interesting premise that I’ve just now resurrected for myself. (One more reason to blog!) What’re your thoughts?

 

Why DEI?

12 March 2024 by Clark 1 Comment

At the event I attended a bit ago, one of the discussions was on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). I attended, to hear what was up. There were discussions of how to instigate DEI, but one thing I felt was missing, so of course I chimed in at the end. Actually, I learned something else as well, so that’s worth reciting to. So, why DEI?

There are, of course, lots of good reasons. For one, the privileges I’ve had haven’t been shared. Folks often come from less opportune backgrounds than others have had the advantage of. Moreover, such advantage hasn’t been accounted for before they get to work. Unfortunately, schools and social welfare haven’t adequately addressed this We have racism, and misogyny, and other forms of discrimination to deal with. ‘Us against them’ isn’t a healthy perspective. However, perhaps you wonder, why should organizations be a source of remedy?

My argument it pretty simple, really. Research says that we get better results when we have diversity in looking for solutions. There’s a pretty simple explanation why, too. What we’re doing, when looking for answers (research, design, trouble-shooting) is searching a potential solution space. It’s easy to not explore thoroughly. I’ve talked about brainstorming, for instance, as something we can do badly or well. That’s about process. But there’s more.

Garvin, Edmondson, & Gino wrote about learning organization dimensions, and one of the four aspects of a supportive learning environment was “appreciation of differences”. I want to emphasize it’s not ‘tolerating diversity’, it’s valuing it! In exploring that space of solutions, the more diversity in the group, the more likely we are to cover a big range. (There’re caveats, of course, particularly that all have to share a commitment to finding an answer.) Homogeneity is the enemy here!

Of course, this means equity in treatment, and inclusion. If you’re excluding people, you’re not taking advantage of diversity. If you’re not promoting equity, the injustices perpetuate. The only good way to get people to feel good about diversity if it is equitable and inclusive.

Interestingly, one of the hosts mentioned that there’s separate evidence of value. This was something I hadn’t heard. Apparently, having more diversity in the room makes people more diverse in their thinking. That is, even before getting people to generate ideas, people’s attitudes are more diverse because of the observed variety. I haven’t been able to confirm this, but I have no reason not to believe it, and it’s an interesting (and valuable) result.

Now, as said, there are lots of good reasons. But one that is very pragmatic is that you get better solutions when different viewpoints are incorporated. We should be looking at complementary and varied viewpoints. That involves bringing different people together that have something to offer, and just being different is one! Celebrate that!

So, that’s why DEI in my mind; done right, the outcome is better!  Overall, we fare better when we work in the ways that align with how our brains operate. That’s alone and together. Let’s do the best for us and our organizations.

Domain-independent coaching?

5 March 2024 by Clark Leave a Comment

At an event this past week, I sat in on a discussion of coaching. Asking folks what coaching was, there were lots of responses about ‘establishing rapport’, ‘asking questions’, etc. I admit I was a wee bit curious amongst all this, thinking about specifics. Which prompted some reflections. My question is about whether there can be domain-independent coaching.

To start, I was thinking about how to develop people just after a learning ‘event’ or experience. They’ve been developed to a certain level, and then we’d like to continue their development. To do so, I thought feedback would be useful, and specifically tying the learning to any relevant task, and providing feedback to fine-tune their performance. Specifically, this requires knowing the domain they’re learning about, observing their performance (in some way), and identifying ways in which they went right, or wrong. That, in my mind, requires specific knowledge about how the mental models play out in context. This, for example, is what we see in sports coaching.

As context, I remember talking to a very smart individual who runs a business that does coaching as a service, at scale. To do this, they have to have folks who know coaching, but pragmatically can’t necessarily know the domain. I was curious how this could work, but empirically it does. Coupled with the responses of folks around the table, I had to reconcile my specifics with a more general approach.  How can this work?

Of course, I started thinking about the trajectory of learners. They start as novices in any particular domain, then proceed to become practitioners, and can become experts. As they progress, they need less specifics. If you look at situated leadership as a model, you go from providing direction and support, to eventually removing the (domain-specific) direction, then the support, as they become capable. Thus, coaching can move to asking about how they’re feeling about it, and to apply their own knowledge to the situation. That is, you can start asking about the process and their thoughts rather than focusing on specifics.

Of course, to me, if you apply the domain-independent coaching at the wrong time, you can delay (or extinguish) their development. On the other hand, continuing with micromanaging performance can be similarly restricting. So, I reckon you can shift to domain-independent coaching, after you have developed a minimum viable level of capability.  That’s my reconciliation; what’re your thoughts?

We can be logical

6 February 2024 by Clark Leave a Comment

So, I’ve been on a bit of a crusade saying we’re not formal logical reasoning beings. And, I do think it’s important to emphasize this in the face of some legacy beliefs. On the other hand, I think there’s evidence that we can be logical. So, how do we reconcile this?

The reason I push against a belief that we’re logical is that too often we are designing as if that’s the case. We see it in way too many policies, practices, and the like. Yet, as has been documented, that’s not our default.

On the other hand, we can be effective reasoners. We have created complex mathematics, advanced science, and generally improved our situation. Something is going on. But what?

Well, Kahneman talks about how we, effectively, have two systems, fast and slow. The slow one takes cognitive effort, so we tend to avoid it. The fast one, then, is default. It’s based upon instinct. Which can be good in two situations: one, where our instincts are likely to be right (e.g. dealing with biologically primary information) or where we have expertise. It can also be bad, where we use it inappropriately.

On the other hand, we can use the slow route. It’s hard, but it works.  This is where we reason things out. (We have to be careful, because being hard, we can depend on it inappropriately.) We can use cognitive support, and complementary skills, but we can document the situation, explore alternatives, trial solutions, and reason our way to good decisions.

And we should! Frankly, I’d rather have in office a policy wonk building coalitions of expertise than a solitary ‘profile’ claiming solutions across the board. I want evidence-based approaches, not simplistic and wrong answers to complex problems!

So, we can be formal logical reasoning beings. Under the right circumstances, with the right support. We should automate what we can so we build the necessary expertise, and provide the conditions for good decisions. That can sometimes be fast, and sometimes be slow, but better to be right than to be expedient. Not perfect, of course, but I’m suggesting we err on the side of likelihood.

That’s my view, at any rate. We can be logical, and that’s a matter of design. We should evaluate and optimize situations so we get the best decisions. That recognizes when training is helpful, when performance support can be used, and when we should support good innovation (problem-solving, research, design, etc). So let’s take a healthy informed look at how we make decisions, and increase the likelihood of good ones. That’s my decision, at any rate. What’s yours?

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