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We play as we practice

22 August 2023 by Clark 6 Comments

I”ve advocated, repeatedly, the importance of practice. Yet, too often, we still see an ‘event’-based model, where it’s one and done. Unfortunately, this doesn’t align with how our brains work! I was looking at one of Elevator 9‘s Liftology videos (caveat: I did the original scripting), where they mentioned ‘practice like we play’. I’d heard it before (in various incarnations), but this time it struck me that perhaps it’s the right vehicle to penetrate complacency about learning design. Should we emphasize “we play as we practice”?

The underlying phenomena is that we need lots of practice, for two reasons. For one, the ‘learning’ mechanism that strengthens our learning can only do so much before it needs sleep. If you want to truly develop a skill, sufficient practice, over time, is required. It’s like building muscle, or training for a sport; occasional practice isn’t sufficient. The right practice, repeated and improved over time, is necessary.

The other is that we are very context sensitive. That is, our consciousness is very much influenced by where and how things are happening. If you want to successfully generate transfer to many different situations (such as sales, or negotiation, or…things that happen in many different contexts with different people and different goals and…), you need sufficient practice across contexts. Our brain abstracts across the contexts seen to determine the space of transfer. Thus, we need widely varied practice to generate a generalized ability to do. 

Yet, too often, we see people getting it right ‘once’, and thinking that’s enough. It might be sufficient to tick a box, but it’s not sufficient to generate a new ability. The problem is, there’s a lot of pressure against this. Folks don’t want to take the time and money, they want to believe that new information will yield a behavior change, it’s just too hard!

So, I’m wondering if rethinking the messaging will help. If we emphasize that what we do is dependent on what we practice, maybe we can get away from the school mentality of ‘study, pass test, forget’. We want to get to the ‘practice practice practice to be good enough to play’ mentality.

I don’t know if “we play as we practice” is the best vehicle, or even one, but I’m kinda desperate, I guess. I’m very very tired of folks not getting that meaningful change requires sustained effort. And I’m really looking for a solution. It seems like this might tap into some useful mental frameworks. Can this help? If not, do you have a better solution? Please?

Beneath the surface

15 August 2023 by Clark 1 Comment

I just finished up teaching my six week workshop on the missing LXD (where we unpack nuances), when I received a message from a colleague. In it, she recited how she’s being pushed on video length. It struck me that what was missing was a finer focus, and it drove me back to previous writings. What I replied is that people focusing on video length are missing the point. I think that it’s yet another case where you need to go beneath the surface level issues. Or, as I’ve said before, details matter!

I’ve railed, e.g. in my book on myths, that our attention span hasn’t dropped down to 8 seconds. And, despite a newer book based upon research that suggests our attention span has dropped to 47 seconds, I think there’s more to it. For instance, attention is (largely; re: the cocktail party effect) volitional. We may be conditioned to be more open to being disturbed; certainly there are more and more effective distractions! Yet I don’t think our attention span capability has shifted (e.g. we don’t evolve that fast), but perhaps our intents may have changed.

For instance, we still can surface from involvement in a movie/book/game and note “how’d it get so late?” So it’s a matter of what we want or intend to attend to. In cognitive science, we separate out conation, intent or motivation (see also Self Determination Theory), that is whether we are willing to expend effort towards something. We have to have a clear reason for someone’s attention, that they accept. Then, we have to maintain it.

There is research (PDF) that suggests that video attention flags after 6 minutes. However, that’s in a particular context, and it may not be general. Again, think about attending to a movie for more than an hour! I think it helps to have a clear intent, and then maintain a commitment to it. If you do, and the audience resonates, they will attend. There’re clear benefits to practicing asceticism, but as colleague JD Dillon once opined, videos should be as long as they need to be, not arbitrarily truncated.

In short, I think folks are focusing on the wrong issues. My point to my colleague was to focus first on the relevance and value of the video, not the length. That may suggest a trim, but it also may suggest more focus on the WIIFM, and maintaining motivation. In short, you’ve got to go beneath the surface and find the real issue. Nuances matter, and we can’t expect others to go into the depths we do, but they do have to let us do our jobs. Which means we have to know our stuff. Please, do!

Not Working harder

2 August 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

Seek > Sense > Share

A colleague recently suggested that I write about how I get so much done. Which is amusing to me, since I don’t think I get done much at all! Still, her point is that I turn around requests for posts the next day, generate webinars quickly, etc. So, I thought I’d talk a bit about how I work (at risk of revealing how much I, er, goof off). It’s all about not working harder! It may be that I’m not doing a lot compared to folks who work in more normal situations, but apparently at least perceived as productive.

So, as background, I have a passion for learning. I remember sitting on the floor, poring through the (diagrams in) the World Book. My folks reinforced this, in a story I think I’ve told about how the only excuse for being excused from the dinner table was looking things up. Actually, while I did well in school, it wasn’t perfect because I was learning to learn, not to do well in school. That was just a lucky side effect. I went on and got a Ph.D. in cognitive science, which I argue is the best foundation for dealing with folks. (Channeling my advisor.)

So, I’ve been lucky to have a good foundation. I do recall another story, which I may have also regaled you with. This is about my father’s friend who succeeded in a job despite having stated to the effect that if it appeared he was asleep, he was working, and he’d still do the work of two. (He did.) The point being, that taking time to learn and reflect was useful. I did the same, spending time reading magazines with my feet up on the desk in my first job out of college, but still producing good work.

That’s continued. Including through my graduate school career, academic life, workplace work, and as a consultant. The latter wasn’t my chosen approach, it was involuntary (despite appearing to be desirable). Somehow, it became a way of life. (And I’ve realized there are lots of things I wouldn’t have been able to do if I had had a real job).  What I do, regularly, are two major things which I think are key.

The first is that I continue to learn. I read (a lot). Partly it’s to stay up on the news in general, but also try to track what happens in our field. I check in on LinkedIn, largely through the folks I follow. I’ve tried to practice Harold Jarche’s PKM, as I understand it. That is, I update the folks I follow (on a variety of media), as well as media (for instance, Twitter is dwindling and I’m now more on Mastodon).

I also allow time for my thoughts to percolate. For instance, I take walks at least a couple of times a week. I can put a question or thought in my mind and head out. To capture thoughts, I use dictation in Apple’s Notes. I also read fiction and play games, to allow thoughts to ferment. (My preferred metaphor, you can also choose percolate or incubate. ;).  I even do household chores as a way to allow time to think. Basically, it looks like I’m spending a lot of time not working. Yet, this is critical to coming up with new ideas!

I also take time to organize my thoughts. Diagramming things is one way I understand them. I blog (like this), for the same reason. These are my personal processing mechanisms. When I do presentations and write articles for others, they’re the result of the time I’ve spent here. If you look at Harold’s process, I set up good feeds to ‘seek’ (and do searches as well), I process actively, through diagramming and posting, and then I share (er, through posting) and presentations and workshops and books and…

How models connect to context to make predictions.Note that it’s not about remembering rote things, but it’s about seeing how they connect. That takes time. And work. But it pays off. I’ll suggest that turning the ideas into models, connected causal stories, helps. So, it’s about understanding how things work, not just ‘knowing’ things. It’s about being able to predict and explain outcomes, not just to tout statistics and facts.

With this prep, I can put together ideas quickly. I’ve thought them through, so I have formed opinions. It’s then much easier to decide how to string them together for a particular goal. The list of things I’ve thought about continues to grow (even if I’ve forgotten some and joyfully rediscover!). I can write it out, or create a presentation, which are basically just linear paths through the connections.

How do I have time to do this? Well, I work from home, so that makes it easier. I also don’t work a regular job, and have gotten reasonably effective at using tools to get things done. For instance, I’m now using Apple’s Reminders to track ‘todos’, along with its Calendar. (I’m cheap, so I’ve used fancier tools, but have found these suffice.) Needless to say, I’m quite serious when I say “if a commitment I make doesn’t get into my device, we never had the conversation.”

Thus, it’s about working smarter. I don’t have an org, so it’s just my practices. If you saw it, you’d see that it’s bursts of productivity combined with lots of ‘down time’. That’s hard to see, as an org, yet that’s the way we work best. As we start having tools that automate more of our rote tasks, we should retain doing creative things like painting, music, and more, not relegate that to AI. Then we can start working more like the creative beings we are, and start recognizing that taking time out for the non-productive is actually more productive. That’s how we work smarter, and are not working harder.

Emotion is the new ID

25 July 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

Ok, so the title’s a bit over the top, but…I think there’s something here. Everyone is now talking about how AI can take over a bunch of ID roles. Frankly, I agree (and have said so). In thinking about it (on a walk, as usual ;), I realized there’s a reframing, and I think it’s important. Despite being a tad flip, I do think emotion is the new ID.

So, there are things AI can’t do. It doesn’t really understand, basically. It can look at relationships and infer structure from good content! (That is, if there’s bad content, the inferences are also bad). We still need oversight, basically. So, one role will be to check AI output for accuracy. However, that’s something that largely comes from domain expertise. We’ve always needed subject matter experts to review output.

When I say AI doesn’t really understand, I mean more, however. It’s syntactically manipulating to generate semantics, but semantics is still largely cognitive. Yet as humans, we’re affective (personality) and conative (motivation) as well. In short, we’re emotional (not purely rational). Context matters. Meaning matters! We need to address these elements in our learning experiences.

Thus, I posit that it takes humans to write the introduction to learning experiences, to set the ‘hook‘. Similarly, it takes humans to make practice activities (aka assessment) that have an engaging context, appropriate challenge, and naturally embed the task. Essentially, making the practice meaningful. That’s something we, uniquely, can do.

When I wrote my book Make It Meaningful, I was explicitly addressing the fact that much of ID addresses the learning science alone (if even doing that). It was designed as a complement to my learning science book, to provide a complete LXD picture. What I didn’t expect was the advent of the LLM AIs. Yet, serendipitously (it seems to me, with the usual caveat ;), the latest book addresses the most important part of learning that AI can’t do now or  in the foreseeable future.

Look, I strongly believe that we don’t pay enough attention to engagement, and yet we can. (Note: I do not mean the trivial engagement approaches: tarted-up content presentation like ‘click to see more’, fancy production values, etc.) I run workshops online and face-to-face on this because it’s my passionate and informed belief, not because it’s going to make me rich (it won’t). It just so happens that with this advent, I think it’s even more true that emotion is the new ID. Fortunately, I think we do know how to do it. I think it gives us a role going forward; a way to answer the question: but what about AI? We just have to be prepared to respond. Are you?

Give us the right info!

18 July 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

I’ve previously complained about the RFPs that orgs send out. And, having just reviewed one, I have to say that I stopped short. There’s more that a company should do if they want to get a good proposal. It has to do with the actual requirements for learning, not for the proposal. There’s always that stuff (what sections, what deadlines, etc). However, too often what’s given doesn’t give enough to actually propose a solution. I want orgs to give us the right info! What do I mean?

The proposal had the sections that were to be covered. With an objective for each. Which were ‘provide information’ and then a listing of content! Sure, we could say we’ll do a knowledge dump, but you and I both know that won’t lead to any meaningful change. We could do our own inferences, and of course we did. But why?

Why aren’t we getting:

  • performance objectives
  • misconceptions/ways they go wrong
  • models
  • stories & examples
  • etc?

These are the things that we need to scope a solution: to think of a pedagogical approach, to actually make something that works! It’s much easier to choose a pedagogical approach when you know what people have to do as an outcome. It affects scope, media, and more as well. All things that organizations want in responses, but they don’t give you enough to do with it. They list content, and time (!).

Sure, we’ll ask these questions through the mechanisms they provide, and it shows we know what we’re talking about. It’s not clear they do, however! It’ll help us lift our game as an industry, collectively, if orgs start to give us the right info to make good proposals. Until then, we’ll see orgs request and vendors respond with info dump courses. And we’ll continue to bore our learners and waste everyone’s time and money. Sigh.

Make Meaningful Practice

11 July 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

Last week, I gave a webinar with the CEO of Upside Learning on microlearning. In the commentary, one of the attendees pointed to the research of Pooja Agarwal. Turns out she’s worked with Roediger (one of the authors of Make It Stick, a book on my list). In a paper I found there, I found justification there for an approach I’ve advocated. My point is that we should make meaningful practice. Which is something I think we don’t focus enough on, so let me elaborate.

So, I argue that even for rote knowledge, you should retrieve in context and apply it. That is, I believe strongly in how Van Merriënboer talks about the knowledge you need and the complex problems you apply it to. That is, the knowledge underpins the ability to determine an appropriate approach and execute.  However, checking to see whether you have the knowledge can be either typical knowledge test or retrieval in some meaningful way. I think the former is boring, but it did seem to align with what learning science would imply.

Fortunately, in that paper (PDF), however, she tested and found that while lower level testing lead to better lower-level recall, it didn’t impact higher-level problem-solving.  Even a combination of low- and high-level questions wasn’t noticeably better than just higher-level question practice. So, if you want the higher-level skills, you practice them and that’s what’s necessary. Such questions require you to know the lower-level material, but don’t seem to need fact-checks.

Which, for experience design, is great news. My book on engagement suggested more meaningful practice. (It’s really on learning experience design, as it’s a complement to my learning science book. The final chapter talks about a design process for integrating learning science with engagement. ) What I proposed was to make practice meaningful by  retrieving information in the context of applying it. This is the case whether it’s mini-scenarios, branching scenarios, or full games.

FYI, if you’re seeking a face-to-face workshop talking about engagement, I’ll point you to my upcoming one at DevLearn in Las Vegas on October 24. The focus is on elegantly integrating engagement, including how to make meaningful practice, It received top ratings across the board when I ran it last year, so I am confident it’s worth it. I’m running a related workshop online right now, but at times most appropriate for the Asia-Pacific region, but if you’re interested, you might check it out.

2023 ITA Jay Cross Memorial Award: Keeley Sorokti

5 July 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

The Internet Time Alliance Memorial Award, in memory of Jay Cross, is presented to a workplace learning professional who has contributed in positive ways to the field of Informal Learning and is reflective of Jay‘s lifetime of work.

Recipients champion workplace and social learning practices inside their organization and/or on the wider stage. They share their work in public and often challenge conventional wisdom. The Award is given to professionals who continuously welcome challenges at the cutting edge of their expertise and are convincing and effective advocates of a humanistic approach to workplace learning and performance.

We announce the award on 5 July, Jay‘s birthday.

Following his death in November 2015, the partners of the Internet Time Alliance — Jane Hart, Charles Jennings, Clark Quinn, and Harold Jarche — resolved to continue Jay‘s work. Jay Cross was a deep thinker and a man of many talents, never resting on his past accomplishments, and this award is one way to keep pushing our professional fields and industries to find new and better ways to learn and work.

We introduce the winner of the 2023 ITA Jay Cross Memorial Award: Keeley Sorokti, (on the recommendation of a previous winner, 2018’s Mark Britz).

Keeley Sorokti’s career as a knowledge management professional has been marked by her expertise in guiding organizations and teams through transformative journeys in designing and sustaining social learning, online community, and knowledge-sharing practices. Her impact can be seen in her work with multiple technology, non-profit, and higher education organizations, where she has improved knowledge creation and sharing, cross-boundary connections, collaboration, and learning experiences. Currently serving as the Director of Knowledge and Collaboration at Sift, a Digital Trust & Safety late-stage technology startup, Keeley’s role involves co-designing solutions that place people at the center, fostering an open learning, knowledge sharing and collaboration culture across the organization.

In addition to her role at Sift, Keeley Sorokti’s influence extends beyond her workplace. She actively shares her expertise and insights. As an instructor, she co-teaches the Creating and Sharing Knowledge class in the Master of Science in Learning and Organizational Change (MSLOC) program at Northwestern University. She co-founded the Chicago Online Community Professionals peer-to-peer community of practice and coworking group where KM, L&D, online community, and digital workplace professionals from around the world support each other as they work to transform the way we work, learn, and share knowledge in our organizations.

Keeley has shown a commitment to advancing the field of workplace learning and her passion for working out loud and making work visible exemplifies her humanistic approach to learning and performance.

Browse Keeley’s articles and presentations: tinyurl.com/keeley-sorokti

From platitudes to pragmatics

4 July 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

It’s easy to talk principle. (And I do. ;) Yet, there are pragmatics we have to deal with, as well. For instance, with ‘clients’ (internal or external), giving us their desired outcomes that are vague and unfocused. We generally don’t want to educate them about our business, yet we need more focused guidance. Particularly when it comes to designing meaningful practice. How, then, do we get from platitudes to pragmatics?

To be clear, what’s driving this is trying to create practice that will lead to actual outcomes. That’s, first, because our practice is the most tangible manifestation of the performance objectives.  Also, because it is also the biggest contributor to learning actually having an impact! We need good objectives to know what we’re targeting and then the next thing we need to do is design the practice. After we design practice, we can develop the associated content, etc. How do we get this focus?

I see several ways. Ideally, we can engage with clients in a productive conversation. We can do the advocated ‘yes and…’ approach, where we turn the conversation to the outcomes they’re looking for, and ideally even to metrics. E.g. “how will we know when we’ve succeeded?” When we hear “our sales cycle takes too long” or “our closure rate isn’t good enough” if the topic is sale, there’re metrics there. If we hear “too many errors in manufacturing” or “customer service ratings aren’t high enough”, that’s quantifiable, and we have a target.

There are other situations, however. We might not get metrics, so then we might have to infer them from the performance outcomes.  When we hear “we need sales training” or “we need to review the manufacturing process” or “we need a refresher on customer service”, it’s a bit vaguer.  We should try and dig in (“what part of sales isn’t up to scratch” or “what are customers complaining about”), but we may not always have the opportunity. Still, we can make practice assignments around these. We can provide practice around the specific associated tasks.

What really is the biggest problem is ‘awareness’ courses. “I just want folks to know this.” (Which begs the question: why?) I fear that part of the answer is a legacy belief that we’re formal logical reasoning beings and so new information will change our behavior. (NOT!) It can also be because the client just doesn’t know any better, nor have any greater insight than “if they know it, it is good”. However, I still think there’s something we can do here. Even if it’s a case of ‘easier to get forgiveness than permission’.

I think we can infer what people would do with the information. If they insist we need to be aware of harassment, or diversity, or… we can ask ourselves “what would folks do differently?” One decision is to intervene, or report, or ignore. Another might be where and how to do those things. In general, even though the requester isn’t aware, there’s something they actually expect people to do. We have to infer what that can be. Then, they can critique, but it’s more effective for the organization  and more engaging for the learner. That, to me, is a reasonable justification!

Whether it’s mapped to multiple choice questions (see Patti Shank’s seminal book on the topic), scenarios (Christy Tucker is one of our gurus), or full games (I have my own book on that ;), we need to give learners practice in dealing with the situations that use the information. I think we can work from platitudes to pragmatics, and should. What do you think?

Don’t just do!

27 June 2023 by Clark Leave a Comment

Look, doing is good. It’s better than not doing, for sure. When I say doing, by the way, I mean doing the things that need to be done. In your work, for instance. You should do your instructional design, your strategy. That’s all good. However, I want to suggest, it’s not enough. Don’t just do, do more! At least, if you want to continue to learn (and you should; let’s not talk about the alternative, but either you’re growing, or, well, you’re not).

What I’m talking about, here, is that just doing your job isn’t a bad thing, but you can and should do more. Most folks I talk to, at local chapter events and the like, want to go above. That’s why they’re there, after all. People say they want to learn and they want to get recognition. I’ve previously addressed that, talking about writing session descriptions. But there’s more.

I’ve also written about being an expert. Having a unique voice, a perspective, and sharing it. I think that’s important, too. However, there’s one more step I suggest that I don’t seem to have shared before. And that’s doing more.

First, of course, is taking advantage of opportunities to learn. I happen to know there are many free webinars. There are also talks that you can attend for a low fee. For more, you can attend online or in-person workshops. Then there are conferences. You likely will want to get your org to pay, but maybe even sometimes put in your own money. If you’ve a commute or other time, listen to podcasts, there are lot of those free too again I happen to know.

Read books; I work out my local library heavily, not just for fiction (which I devour), but also non-fiction. Interlibrary loan is a gift, use it if you can! Certain books are worth buying, creating a valuable library. I’ve got a shelf next to my desk that’s full of some of the best books known, so I can grab them to refer to certain things.

As you get your mind around the field, you’ll start seeing things in different ways. Not only will your work improve, but you’ll begin to find your own voice, a step on the way to expertise. Wrestle with things, and then share when they make sense. You’ll likely help others.

Then, do one further step. Don’t just attend the local chapter events, and conferences, contribute. Serve on a committee. There’s a lot to be learned in this way.  You’ll meet folks, get exposed to new ideas, and make it easier to go further. It’s a good stepping stone on the way to speaking, for one. It’s also a way to give back to those who’ve contributed.

Sure, you can just do your job. Exist. Consume and produce. But I think there’s more to life, and I think if you’re here, you agree. So, here’re some concrete actions to take. Don’t just do, do more.

Skills to move into L&D?

13 June 2023 by Clark 2 Comments

Our colleague, Connie Malamed, posed a question on Twitter. She asked: “What areas and skills are essential (in order of importance if possible) for those who want to transition into learning and development.”  So, I used some of my tiny brain and generated an initial list. I’m sharing it for her (I responded with just the categories on Twitter), and for discussion. I welcome your thoughts on skills to move into L&D.

The first category I thought of was the basics of cognitive science: perception, consciousness & context, elaboration, retrieval, etc. I think (strongly) that if you know the basics of the Human Information Processing (HIP) loop, you have a foundation to understand so much more. Not just instructional design, but basically designing for people: graphic, interface, marketing, etc design. I think anyone who designs for people ought to know it. I’m surprised, frankly, that it’s not more central.

From there, the next step, and this is where we get L&D-specific, is learning science. Here I mean the role of models, examples, emotion, etc. These are phenomena that emerge from our HIP system, but are unique to learning (there are others that aren’t as specific to our roles). This is what we have to understand so that we can understand the precepts of learning experience design (LXD).

I think that in L&D, you also have to understand the process of design itself. Particularly the things that are our adaptions to the flaws in our cognitive architecture, but as learners and as designers. Here I’m talking about things like the need for iteration and formative and summative evaluation, (proper) brainstorming, etc. For instance, I got a lot of mileage out of bringing what was known from interface design to instructional design; that field was much more astute about design than was ours at the time.

Integrating the above is LXD, which I think we ought to know. That is, taking the principles above about design and learning and turning that into a process that reliably yields experiences that develop real performance. If we’re designing solutions, we need to know the science and the engineering thereof.

There are also some additional fields that have a big impact on the ability to be successful in L&D in the real world. Thus, you need things like good project management (scheduling, resource allocation, risk management, etc), for one. Even if assigned a project manager, you still need to be personally effective. Which incorporates, I suppose, time management similarly, effectively using calendaring, ‘todo’ lists, etc. There’s also working with others: being a good teammate, knowing how to work with SMEs and other stakeholders, etc. You also need to know the basics of business: planning, budgeting, strategy, also things like supply/demand, and change management in particular (interventions are org changes, and need to be treated as same).

Connie also said: “I have an opinion and would like to hear yours. ” So, here’ve been my thoughts on the skills to move into L&D. What are yours?

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